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Post by elalacran on Feb 11, 2012 11:13:01 GMT -5
What a great example of my point. Two sides state, unequivocally, that an issue is very important and take opposite sides. One side stands firm and the other side caves, who has principles again. Caves? The end effect is the same, plus since insurance companies are required to include contraceptives in their coverage, everybody pays for contraceptives! Everybody. You didn't think insurance companies will include that free, do you? Only difference is that now it is a mite less obvious that employers are paying for contraceptives. Which lets the supposedly celebate Catholic hierarchy retreat with less loss of face, if they will.
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Post by lubbockgoper on Feb 11, 2012 11:28:44 GMT -5
Why didn't they do it that way to begin with? Why did they say it was decided, done deal, STFU about it? Why did they make a case for three days how important it was that it be done this way? Their words, not mine.
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Post by lubbockgoper on Feb 11, 2012 11:32:34 GMT -5
What a great example of my point. Two sides state, unequivocally, that an issue is very important and take opposite sides. One side stands firm and the other side caves, who has principles again? One side is willing to work with the other side, and the other side wants to control vaginas and uteri, though they have neither. Which principles are you talking about? The ones that say people with penises get to make decisions for people with vaginas and uteri? Speaking of, the military is opening up more positions for women. That's got to gall you moronboorpiggopher, seeing how you feel that the military has gone to Hel since they allowed women to serve as more than nurses and secretaries. Homophobic and misogynistic thing that you are. The only that galls me is lying pieces of lib crap that make up what my position is. Don't you have a kilt to go occupy, nancy?
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Post by elalacran on Feb 11, 2012 16:24:19 GMT -5
Why didn't they do it that way to begin with? Why did they say it was decided, done deal, STFU about it? Why did they make a case for three days how important it was that it be done this way? Their words, not mine. It may be givng the administration too much credit for firesight, but this might have been deliberate. Take a position and appear to back down a little in compromise to a preplanned fall-back position. If they had taken this position to begin with, there would still be objections expressed and then where would the administration be? What could they "fall back" to? Remember all this fuss over contraception is over the objection of a minority of voters. It's not handing over a strong issue to the Republicans.
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Post by lubbockgoper on Feb 11, 2012 16:43:16 GMT -5
Catholics still aren't buying.
This is gonna be a big problem for the dims. If it wasn't, they wouldn't be caving.
More voters turning their backs on the great socialist....
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Post by anonthemoose on Feb 11, 2012 20:21:18 GMT -5
One side is willing to work with the other side, and the other side wants to control vaginas and uteri, though they have neither. Which principles are you talking about? The ones that say people with penises get to make decisions for people with vaginas and uteri? Speaking of, the military is opening up more positions for women. That's got to gall you moronboorpiggopher, seeing how you feel that the military has gone to Hel since they allowed women to serve as more than nurses and secretaries. Homophobic and misogynistic thing that you are. The only that galls me is lying pieces of lib crap that make up what my position is. Don't you have a kilt to go occupy, nancy? You forget all those posts blasting women in the military, gays in the military etc? Just changing your name or your forum doesn't make those old posts go away. No matter how much you may want them to. But then, you change your mind from post to post, and don't seem to realize it. Some might call it flip-flopping, I call it lying...mostly to troll.
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Post by lubbockgoper on Feb 11, 2012 20:32:08 GMT -5
You are a complete and utter liar. I never once railed against women or gays in the military. I stated from the outset that the military need to decide and not the socialists, period. I stated the military knew what was best, not the socialist. Said along I would support their stance. The only that galls me is lying pieces of lib crap that make up what my position is. Don't you have a kilt to go occupy, nancy? You forget all those posts blasting women in the military, gays in the military etc? Just changing your name or your forum doesn't make those old posts go away. No matter how much you may want them to. But then, you change your mind from post to post, and don't seem to realize it. Some might call it flip-flopping, I call it lying...mostly to troll.
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Post by elalacran on Feb 11, 2012 20:46:42 GMT -5
Whatever Obama is, he is not a socialist. Say, you're not Mr. Conservative in drag, are you?
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Post by lubbockgoper on Feb 11, 2012 20:53:39 GMT -5
Whatever Obama is, he is not a socialist. Say, you're not Mr. Conservative in drag, are you? And Bush wasn't a Facist but that didn't slow you libs down... It's working for us, maybe some independents will buy it. BTW- I'm referring to real independents and not democrap-only voting ones like you.
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Post by anonthemoose on Feb 11, 2012 20:54:14 GMT -5
You are a complete and utter liar. I never once railed against women or gays in the military. I stated from the outset that the military need to decide and not the socialists, period. I stated the military knew what was best, not the socialist. Said along I would support their stance. You forget all those posts blasting women in the military, gays in the military etc? Just changing your name or your forum doesn't make those old posts go away. No matter how much you may want them to. But then, you change your mind from post to post, and don't seem to realize it. Some might call it flip-flopping, I call it lying...mostly to troll. I've called you a liar, and proved it many times. You've called me a liar, and when asked to prove it, you refuse to. I'll just stick with re-calling you a liar. Proving it has been redundant and fruitless. Like I said, you change your story from post to post, and don't seem to realize it, even when it is pointed out to you with quotes from your posts. I don't see any reason to go to TalkLubbock, dig up your old posts, and quoting them, when you will still deny what you yourself wrote. Same ol' moronboorpiggopher; either dealing with dementia, or just lying.
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Post by lubbockgoper on Feb 11, 2012 21:10:27 GMT -5
Same old jross sitting at home trying strike a blow for the libs. Problem is, he simply lacks the intellegence to do it correctly, so he resorts to lies. Maybe you should reconsider joining your brethren in occupying something. It doesn't take much intelligence to fill space. You'd be much effective at that. You are a complete and utter liar. I never once railed against women or gays in the military. I stated from the outset that the military need to decide and not the socialists, period. I stated the military knew what was best, not the socialist. Said along I would support their stance. I've called you a liar, and proved it many times. You've called me a liar, and when asked to prove it, you refuse to. I'll just stick with re-calling you a liar. Proving it has been redundant and fruitless. Like I said, you change your story from post to post, and don't seem to realize it, even when it is pointed out to you with quotes from your posts. I don't see any reason to go to TalkLubbock, dig up your old posts, and quoting them, when you will still deny what you yourself wrote. Same ol' moronboorpiggopher; either dealing with dementia, or just lying.
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Post by lubbockgoper on Feb 12, 2012 16:18:04 GMT -5
But I do have to chuckle at the indignant Bishops today, the same ones the supported this crap being shoved down America's throat.
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Post by scriboniuspompa on Feb 14, 2012 11:55:00 GMT -5
the role of roman catholic clergy in perpetuating misery and death has not been adequately examined. it is a travesty that one must be meek and gentle with those butchers!
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Post by elalacran on Feb 15, 2012 15:18:49 GMT -5
The RC hierarchy instead of proclaiming a paper victory for that cosmetic change and slinking off to work on defusing more intra-church scandals is pushing their losing issue before the public. Well, we need to drag out the church's role in starvation! How many lives could they have saved by promoting contraception instead of clinging to an irrational and outdated cluster of dogma?
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Post by lubbockgoper on Feb 19, 2012 11:17:57 GMT -5
Kinda funny that a Catholics, who supported Obama and Obamacare, we're the first to get skewered by it.
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