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Post by elalacran on Feb 16, 2012 13:49:59 GMT -5
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Post by anonthemoose on Feb 16, 2012 18:43:27 GMT -5
"The imbalance was most pronounced among less-educated white men, with whom his lead disappeared."
Education corrupts, and absolute education corrupts absolutely...or something like that.
Stupid Y chromosome.
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Post by elalacran on Feb 17, 2012 16:25:05 GMT -5
Remember that pic of Silent Cal Coolidge in a suit, foot on a log, axe in hand, ready to chop his foot off? Need to get some shots of Romney working around his house, nailing on shingles, removing a toilet, and installing shutters. Changing the oil in his SUV. Guy stuff.
Oh. Forgot. Romney is not a regular guy.
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Post by lubbockgoper on Feb 17, 2012 18:48:32 GMT -5
And obummer is? That's freakin' rich right there... Remember that pic of Silent Cal Coolidge in a suit, foot on a log, axe in hand, ready to chop his foot off? Need to get some shots of Romney working around his house, nailing on shingles, removing a toilet, and installing shutters. Changing the oil in his SUV. Guy stuff. Oh. Forgot. Romney is not a regular guy. |
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Post by elalacran on Feb 17, 2012 20:12:24 GMT -5
If you mean Obama, no, he is not one you would ask to change out a thermostat or R&R a lavatory trap. On the other hand, he has lived like an ordinary guy; Romney hasn't; ever.
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Post by lubbockgoper on Feb 19, 2012 11:04:40 GMT -5
If you mean Obama, no, he is not one you would ask to change out a thermostat or R&R a lavatory trap. On the other hand, he has lived like an ordinary guy; Romney hasn't; ever. Do you vote for John Kerry? Al Gore? What's your feeling about FDR? Kennedy? A pond I'm not really asking your opinion on these men, lord knows I have no desire to read your arrogant need to educate the masses. The point is your just a hypocrite. You voted for them and would support the other men, but somehow it means something negative to you when a Republican is raised the same way. Just shows that you aren't really about issues, just another partisan hack looking to help the Democrat party. You and old Debbie W... Peas in a pod, party apparatchik .... |
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Post by elalacran on Feb 19, 2012 11:57:08 GMT -5
I never voted for a Kennedy for president, or a Roosevelt, though I considered voting for a Rockefeller. I did vote for Kerry, but wasn't thrilled with him (I would have voted for a thrown away shoe in preference to that numbskull Bush). Did vote for Gore.
Kerry was not wealthy until he married Teresa Heinz late in life. Kerry was an ordinary guy. Gore too was an ordinary guy except for parentage and time at Harvard. Romney is something else. Romney is an isolate.
Romney is a man who except for the necessity of campaigning would not be out pressing the flesh, meeting or talking to ordinary people. He and his life have been way apart from the rest of humanity except for the requirement of courting votes. His personal goals, what motivates the man, what makes him tick, are a riddle to baffle the Sphinx. Those who have known him for years say they don't know him.
Is Romney like Geo W. Bush motivated to equal or surpass his father? When his father failed to be nominated did the young Mitt see that as a personal affront that he would one day avenge? We don't know.
Of course my position is that anyone who would want to be president ought to be disqualified. I think we should select presidents by random drawing and giving the person whose name is drawn a choice of serving or being killed painfully.
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Post by lubbockgoper on Feb 19, 2012 18:44:43 GMT -5
Wow...
So you managed a way to justify your support of some of the wealthiest men for president- as long as they are democrats.
How very DNC-like
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Post by elalacran on Feb 20, 2012 11:43:18 GMT -5
Nelson Rockefeller was a Republican.
Should there be a problem supporting the very wealthy for political office? I don't think so.
I've always justified this on the reasoning that a wealthy person who has inherited that wealth and is basically retired except for a career in public service is a good bet. Too rich to want to steal, guilty enough so they can do the right thing without influence from rich cronies.
That reasoning allows one to support Kennedys, but not Soros. The Kennedys have plenty of guilt. Being descended from Joe Kennedy is like belonging to la familia de Vito Genovese.
You don't want wheeler-dealers or nouveau riche in the White House. You want someone whose goal is not accumulating wealth but who has grown beyond all that. Rockefellers, Roosevelts, all qualify admirably.
Romney? Maybe and maybe not. We go back to my complaint that we do not know him beyond a managed persona. If he were living off the wealth accumulated by his father and occupied himself with philanthropy and politics I'd feel a little better.
I guess my orientation here is similar to that justifying political careers for peers in England. They're wealthy, idle, educated, ergo good material for an MP.
Let me back up a bit. Kerry is not wealthy. His wife is wealthy, or more exactly controls a lot of wealth in trust and has plenty of income off the principal. So Kerry gets the use of palatial houses and ski lodges and vehicles and so on as long as she keeps him around. He does not own them. Said it before, Teresa H. Kerry is a fox and a firebrand; what she sees in her slow pompous hubby, I don't know. Me, I'd trade him in for a newer sleeker model.
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Post by lubbockgoper on Feb 21, 2012 7:44:51 GMT -5
Only an idiot doesn't "know" about Romney. His whole life is out there for looking at.
Now a rich man that made his own fortune is an inferior candidate than one that inherited it to you. which is the opposite of what you have said for years. LOL
There's no end to your hypocrisy, is there? I have never, in all my discussions of politics, seen a a more partisian attack dog than you. If the DNC needs the sky to be purple, you will be the first to announce it.
And the funny part is your blindness to it. LOL. You really see yourself as detached and independent....it's hilarious.
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Post by elalacran on Feb 21, 2012 9:52:36 GMT -5
His "life" is there but "he" is not.
You want a lean and hungry candidate, you can look at Gingrich, the old scheming money-hungry trade-up wives Gingrich. Well, Gingrich has always been pretty easy to figure out. Romney is not.
Is it the status? Does it have to do with his achieving Godhood in the Mormon belief?
You know, when you started railing about the DNC I had to Google it to know what it was.
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Post by lubbockgoper on Feb 21, 2012 18:29:20 GMT -5
You know, when you started railing about the DNC I had to Google it to know what it was. Then you're an idiot... |
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Post by elalacran on Feb 21, 2012 23:06:48 GMT -5
Idiot savant, actually.
Greed and fornication I grok. That's why Gingrich amuses me, and Cain. Romney is a harder egg; what makes the guy tick? Need to get Mitt in a lab. My fingers twitch as they reach out for my dissection equipment.
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Post by elalacran on Mar 8, 2012 13:31:07 GMT -5
I'm not sorry that Romney is at last prevailing. Most of the contenders were either flat crazy or on some trivial ego trip. Romney is the pick of the litter.
What I hate most is the way that the Republican Party process forces candidates into extremism, and that definitely includes Romney.
I am reminded of what a local Republican leader said a few years ago: "Just because you vote [Republican] does not make you Republican." This was preparatory to an inquisitorial process whereby the local GOP party culled out possible candidates.
The GOP is a direct descendant of the Inquisition. Those approved by central committees have undergone a thorough inspection of the quality of their faith. There is little room for heresy or independence in the GOP.
It is a horrible thing to be a Republican. Next worst is thinking like one. Next is voting for one.
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Post by lubbockgoper on Mar 10, 2012 10:32:18 GMT -5
I don't imagine it's any worse than having to get your panties in a bunch about every perceived slight like the democrats. Must be hard to continually enjoy living in the greatest country on earth while having to come up with reasons to hate it. And to send out college kids to do your protesting while sitting on the sidelines , doing nothing, because you value your business contacts more than you do your political "principles".
The crap democrats have to eat to part of the party is overwhelming...
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